roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if people who lie and the lie is obvious if they truly believe it and are delusional or know they are lying.
If its a personality disorder or just outright deception.
Are their versions of events real to them

I have family members whose recall of events is quite different to what happened backed up by witnesses.
They are insistent and never vary that their recall of events is true.
So are they lying or did it unfold in their mind the way they recall due to personality problems.
It makes it very hard to support them when you aren’t sure if what they say happened did and you yourself aren’t there

Eye witnesses often have different stories.

That is true but when two eye witnesses or more agree on how events took place it does make you wonder what is going on in their mind.