Date: 21/06/2023 11:09:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2045725
Subject: Big bird

(lost post trying again)

I came across the two biggest ever flying birds today.

Argentavis was the heaviest and has a skeletal wingspan of 4 metres.

Pelagornis had the largest wingspan. It was a toothed bird related to the gannet and cormorant.

An amusing sidelight is that the largest Pelagornis was discovered – wait for it – at an airport.

The only known fossil of P. sandersi was first uncovered in 1983 at Charleston International Airport, South Carolina, discovered by James Malcom, while working construction building a new terminal there. At the time the bird lived, 25 million years ago, global temperatures were higher, and the area where it was discovered was an ocean.

Reconstruction of Argentavis

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Date: 21/06/2023 11:15:08
From: Cymek
ID: 2045737
Subject: re: Big bird

mollwollfumble said:


(lost post trying again)

I came across the two biggest ever flying birds today.

Argentavis was the heaviest and has a skeletal wingspan of 4 metres.

Pelagornis had the largest wingspan. It was a toothed bird related to the gannet and cormorant.

An amusing sidelight is that the largest Pelagornis was discovered – wait for it – at an airport.

The only known fossil of P. sandersi was first uncovered in 1983 at Charleston International Airport, South Carolina, discovered by James Malcom, while working construction building a new terminal there. At the time the bird lived, 25 million years ago, global temperatures were higher, and the area where it was discovered was an ocean.

Reconstruction of Argentavis


Would higher temperatures mean more and stronger atmospheric thermals allowing something this large to fly

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Date: 22/06/2023 14:48:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2046417
Subject: re: Big bird

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

(lost post trying again)

I came across the two biggest ever flying birds today.

Argentavis was the heaviest and has a skeletal wingspan of 4 metres.

Pelagornis had the largest wingspan. It was a toothed bird related to the gannet and cormorant.

An amusing sidelight is that the largest Pelagornis was discovered – wait for it – at an airport.

The only known fossil of P. sandersi was first uncovered in 1983 at Charleston International Airport, South Carolina, discovered by James Malcom, while working construction building a new terminal there. At the time the bird lived, 25 million years ago, global temperatures were higher, and the area where it was discovered was an ocean.

Reconstruction of Argentavis


Would higher temperatures mean more and stronger atmospheric thermals allowing something this large to fly

Or perhaps the higher temperatures mean that the muscles are less cold so requiring less energy to warm up in the morning. Or the higher temperatures may affect atmospheric oxygen availability.

Lots of hypotheses are possible.

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