In Nepean, ONP were second on primaries but did not make it to the final two-candidate distribution.
The reason for this is that the ONP did not pick up a lot of preferences before elimination.

At the primary stage, the votes were:

Lib 38.5%
ONP 24.7%
Ind 21.3%
Others 15.5%

After the distribution of Others

Lib 41.2%
Ind 30.6%
ONP 28.3%

That is, Libs picked up 17% of preferences from Other, ONP got 23%, and 60% went to the Independent.

At the elimination of ONP, most of those prefs went to the Liberal rather than the Independent, leading to a final 2cp of around 63 – 37 in the Liberal’s favour.

Lord knows how it will pan out in the November election but it does illustrate that a high primary vote can fail to translate to a lot of seats if much of the rest of the population put you last on the docket.

dv said:

In Nepean, ONP were second on primaries but did not make it to the final two-candidate distribution.
The reason for this is that the ONP did not pick up a lot of preferences before elimination.

At the primary stage, the votes were:

Lib 38.5%
ONP 24.7%
Ind 21.3%
Others 15.5%

After the distribution of Others

Lib 41.2%
Ind 30.6%
ONP 28.3%

That is, Libs picked up 17% of preferences from Other, ONP got 23%, and 60% went to the Independent.

At the elimination of ONP, most of those prefs went to the Liberal rather than the Independent, leading to a final 2cp of around 63 – 37 in the Liberal’s favour.

Lord knows how it will pan out in the November election but it does illustrate that a high primary vote can fail to translate to a lot of seats if much of the rest of the population put you last on the docket.

Looks like probably as many as voted for ONP, put them last.

ETTE media analyses the data of the coverage of Randa Abdel Fattah by The Australian

3 minutes

SCIENCE said:

The Queensland Fire Department (QFD) told the ABC smoke was seen onboard, but there was no visible fire and nothing needed to be extinguished.

The ABC understood an electrical fault was likely to blame, potentially from the onboard microwave oven.

QFD said the oven has now been isolated and tested.

The Australian Defence Force has been contacted for comment.

The Italians knew how to vly a C-27J

The Japanese Prime Minister looks much happier shaking Albo’s hand than being with Trump. That’s a real smile. On both of them.

From this ABC news story

buffy said:

The Japanese Prime Minister looks much happier shaking Albo’s hand than being with Trump. That’s a real smile. On both of them.

From this ABC news story

Isn’t she a far right awful person though?

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

The Japanese Prime Minister looks much happier shaking Albo’s hand than being with Trump. That’s a real smile. On both of them.

From this ABC news story

Isn’t she a far right awful person though?

I have no idea. I just noticed the difference in facial expression from what I saw recently when she was in America.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

The Japanese Prime Minister looks much happier shaking Albo’s hand than being with Trump. That’s a real smile. On both of them.

From this ABC news story

Isn’t she a far right awful person though?

I have no idea. I just noticed the difference in facial expression from what I saw recently when she was in America.

By most accounts, she’s a Japanese Pauline Hanson, or perhaps somewhat worse.

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Isn’t she a far right awful person though?

I have no idea. I just noticed the difference in facial expression from what I saw recently when she was in America.

By most accounts, she’s a Japanese Pauline Hanson, or perhaps somewhat worse.

fascism keeps the world running well

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

The Japanese Prime Minister looks much happier shaking Albo’s hand than being with Trump. That’s a real smile. On both of them.

From this ABC news story

Isn’t she a far right awful person though?

Worser than Ivan Milat

I wonder with various scarcities going on, if big business has thought of reducing profit margins to help the economy.
You know instead of trying screw every last cent out of consumers they reduce expectations.
I mean profit is profit isn’t it
Same with banks give people a break by reducing fees and such.
Or must the beast the economy grow despite every other consideration

Cymek said:

I wonder with various scarcities going on, if big business has thought of reducing profit margins to help the economy.
You know instead of trying screw every last cent out of consumers they reduce expectations.
I mean profit is profit isn’t it
Same with banks give people a break by reducing fees and such.
Or must the beast the economy grow despite every other consideration

LOL

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I wonder with various scarcities going on, if big business has thought of reducing profit margins to help the economy.
You know instead of trying screw every last cent out of consumers they reduce expectations.
I mean profit is profit isn’t it
Same with banks give people a break by reducing fees and such.
Or must the beast the economy grow despite every other consideration

LOL

Yes it would never happen
It’s business as usual despite everything going on
We have no choice except to accept this is how is and always will be.
Social control through money

A new Redbridge federal poll today.

“Two-party preferred measures have Labor leading the Coalition by 54-46 and One Nation by 55-45 (in each case compared with 53-47 last time). A three-way preferred prime minister result has Anthony Albanese at 33%, Pauline Hanson at 23% and Angus Taylor floundering at 14%.”

Today Avi Yemini is calling for members for ‘Muslim Votes Matter’ as well. He aims to exploit groups voting to channel votes from fake parties to One Nation.

…

2026-04-30

The Victorian Greens have today warned that keeping Victoria’s undemocratic group voting system is allowing extremists to shamelessly exploit the system and deceive voters in order to elect far-right MPs to the parliament at the November election.

It comes as far-right extremist, Avi Yemini publicly declared he would register the ‘Free Palestine Party’ and then funnel these votes to far-right political parties, intentionally deceiving voters in order to get himself elected. This is currently legal under Victoria’s undemocratic ‘group voting’ system.

Avi Yemini is the second person to declare they will be running under a deceiving name, in February anti-lockdown campaigner, Monica Smit, said she would run under the name of “Save the Environment Party” in order to funnel votes to right-wing parties who have anti-environment policies.

The Victorian Electoral Matters Parliamentary committee has repeatedly recommended that the group voting system is undemocratic and should be abolished before the next election.

The Greens say Labor’s claims that abolishing group voting tickets would secure seats for One Nation are false, and in fact keeping the GVT system could see many far-right parties elected on a fraction of a percent of a vote.

The group voting system has elected micro-parties with tiny votes, like the Transport Matters party who were elected in 2018 with 0.65% of the vote, or the Daylight Saving party elected in WA with just 98 votes.

Abolishing the group voting system will mean only parties with a high enough primary vote will be able to secure a seat in Parliament, properly reflecting the will of Victorian voters.

Quotes attributable to Leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandell.

“Group voting tickets are seriously dodgy. The fact that Labor is refusing to get rid of them is even dodgier. How can Labor condone a voting system that allows people to be tricked into voting for a party with a fake name that is completely opposed to their values?

“If Labor doesn’t abolish dodgy group voting tickets, they’re letting deceitful far-right political parties buy seats in Parliament and essentially handing the Upper House over to the far-right.”

Quotes attributable to Victorian Greens integrity spokesperson, Tim Read:

“Multiple parliamentary inquiries have found that group voting tickets are undemocratic and should be abolished and it’s time that Labor listened.”

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/greens-warn-danger-group-voting-tickets-far-right-party-shamelessly-shares

Witty Rejoinder said:

Today Avi Yemini is calling for members for ‘Muslim Votes Matter’ as well. He aims to exploit groups voting to channel votes from fake parties to One Nation.

…

2026-04-30

The Victorian Greens have today warned that keeping Victoria’s undemocratic group voting system is allowing extremists to shamelessly exploit the system and deceive voters in order to elect far-right MPs to the parliament at the November election.

It comes as far-right extremist, Avi Yemini publicly declared he would register the ‘Free Palestine Party’ and then funnel these votes to far-right political parties, intentionally deceiving voters in order to get himself elected. This is currently legal under Victoria’s undemocratic ‘group voting’ system.

Avi Yemini is the second person to declare they will be running under a deceiving name, in February anti-lockdown campaigner, Monica Smit, said she would run under the name of “Save the Environment Party” in order to funnel votes to right-wing parties who have anti-environment policies.

The Victorian Electoral Matters Parliamentary committee has repeatedly recommended that the group voting system is undemocratic and should be abolished before the next election.

The Greens say Labor’s claims that abolishing group voting tickets would secure seats for One Nation are false, and in fact keeping the GVT system could see many far-right parties elected on a fraction of a percent of a vote.

The group voting system has elected micro-parties with tiny votes, like the Transport Matters party who were elected in 2018 with 0.65% of the vote, or the Daylight Saving party elected in WA with just 98 votes.

Abolishing the group voting system will mean only parties with a high enough primary vote will be able to secure a seat in Parliament, properly reflecting the will of Victorian voters.

Quotes attributable to Leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandell.

“Group voting tickets are seriously dodgy. The fact that Labor is refusing to get rid of them is even dodgier. How can Labor condone a voting system that allows people to be tricked into voting for a party with a fake name that is completely opposed to their values?

“If Labor doesn’t abolish dodgy group voting tickets, they’re letting deceitful far-right political parties buy seats in Parliament and essentially handing the Upper House over to the far-right.”

Quotes attributable to Victorian Greens integrity spokesperson, Tim Read:

“Multiple parliamentary inquiries have found that group voting tickets are undemocratic and should be abolished and it’s time that Labor listened.”

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/greens-warn-danger-group-voting-tickets-far-right-party-shamelessly-shares

Seems like outright deception

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Today Avi Yemini is calling for members for ‘Muslim Votes Matter’ as well. He aims to exploit groups voting to channel votes from fake parties to One Nation.

…

2026-04-30

The Victorian Greens have today warned that keeping Victoria’s undemocratic group voting system is allowing extremists to shamelessly exploit the system and deceive voters in order to elect far-right MPs to the parliament at the November election.

It comes as far-right extremist, Avi Yemini publicly declared he would register the ‘Free Palestine Party’ and then funnel these votes to far-right political parties, intentionally deceiving voters in order to get himself elected. This is currently legal under Victoria’s undemocratic ‘group voting’ system.

Avi Yemini is the second person to declare they will be running under a deceiving name, in February anti-lockdown campaigner, Monica Smit, said she would run under the name of “Save the Environment Party” in order to funnel votes to right-wing parties who have anti-environment policies.

The Victorian Electoral Matters Parliamentary committee has repeatedly recommended that the group voting system is undemocratic and should be abolished before the next election.

The Greens say Labor’s claims that abolishing group voting tickets would secure seats for One Nation are false, and in fact keeping the GVT system could see many far-right parties elected on a fraction of a percent of a vote.

The group voting system has elected micro-parties with tiny votes, like the Transport Matters party who were elected in 2018 with 0.65% of the vote, or the Daylight Saving party elected in WA with just 98 votes.

Abolishing the group voting system will mean only parties with a high enough primary vote will be able to secure a seat in Parliament, properly reflecting the will of Victorian voters.

Quotes attributable to Leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandell.

“Group voting tickets are seriously dodgy. The fact that Labor is refusing to get rid of them is even dodgier. How can Labor condone a voting system that allows people to be tricked into voting for a party with a fake name that is completely opposed to their values?

“If Labor doesn’t abolish dodgy group voting tickets, they’re letting deceitful far-right political parties buy seats in Parliament and essentially handing the Upper House over to the far-right.”

Quotes attributable to Victorian Greens integrity spokesperson, Tim Read:

“Multiple parliamentary inquiries have found that group voting tickets are undemocratic and should be abolished and it’s time that Labor listened.”

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/greens-warn-danger-group-voting-tickets-far-right-party-shamelessly-shares

Seems like outright deception

Yes, quite apart from the question whether group voting is a good idea, how is it legal for a party to give itself a name that is clearly deliberately misleading?

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Today Avi Yemini is calling for members for ‘Muslim Votes Matter’ as well. He aims to exploit groups voting to channel votes from fake parties to One Nation.

…

2026-04-30

The Victorian Greens have today warned that keeping Victoria’s undemocratic group voting system is allowing extremists to shamelessly exploit the system and deceive voters in order to elect far-right MPs to the parliament at the November election.

It comes as far-right extremist, Avi Yemini publicly declared he would register the ‘Free Palestine Party’ and then funnel these votes to far-right political parties, intentionally deceiving voters in order to get himself elected. This is currently legal under Victoria’s undemocratic ‘group voting’ system.

Avi Yemini is the second person to declare they will be running under a deceiving name, in February anti-lockdown campaigner, Monica Smit, said she would run under the name of “Save the Environment Party” in order to funnel votes to right-wing parties who have anti-environment policies.

The Victorian Electoral Matters Parliamentary committee has repeatedly recommended that the group voting system is undemocratic and should be abolished before the next election.

The Greens say Labor’s claims that abolishing group voting tickets would secure seats for One Nation are false, and in fact keeping the GVT system could see many far-right parties elected on a fraction of a percent of a vote.

The group voting system has elected micro-parties with tiny votes, like the Transport Matters party who were elected in 2018 with 0.65% of the vote, or the Daylight Saving party elected in WA with just 98 votes.

Abolishing the group voting system will mean only parties with a high enough primary vote will be able to secure a seat in Parliament, properly reflecting the will of Victorian voters.

Quotes attributable to Leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandell.

“Group voting tickets are seriously dodgy. The fact that Labor is refusing to get rid of them is even dodgier. How can Labor condone a voting system that allows people to be tricked into voting for a party with a fake name that is completely opposed to their values?

“If Labor doesn’t abolish dodgy group voting tickets, they’re letting deceitful far-right political parties buy seats in Parliament and essentially handing the Upper House over to the far-right.”

Quotes attributable to Victorian Greens integrity spokesperson, Tim Read:

“Multiple parliamentary inquiries have found that group voting tickets are undemocratic and should be abolished and it’s time that Labor listened.”

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/greens-warn-danger-group-voting-tickets-far-right-party-shamelessly-shares

Seems like outright deception

Such individuals /parties should be expelled

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Today Avi Yemini is calling for members for ‘Muslim Votes Matter’ as well. He aims to exploit groups voting to channel votes from fake parties to One Nation.

…

2026-04-30

The Victorian Greens have today warned that keeping Victoria’s undemocratic group voting system is allowing extremists to shamelessly exploit the system and deceive voters in order to elect far-right MPs to the parliament at the November election.

It comes as far-right extremist, Avi Yemini publicly declared he would register the ‘Free Palestine Party’ and then funnel these votes to far-right political parties, intentionally deceiving voters in order to get himself elected. This is currently legal under Victoria’s undemocratic ‘group voting’ system.

Avi Yemini is the second person to declare they will be running under a deceiving name, in February anti-lockdown campaigner, Monica Smit, said she would run under the name of “Save the Environment Party” in order to funnel votes to right-wing parties who have anti-environment policies.

The Victorian Electoral Matters Parliamentary committee has repeatedly recommended that the group voting system is undemocratic and should be abolished before the next election.

The Greens say Labor’s claims that abolishing group voting tickets would secure seats for One Nation are false, and in fact keeping the GVT system could see many far-right parties elected on a fraction of a percent of a vote.

The group voting system has elected micro-parties with tiny votes, like the Transport Matters party who were elected in 2018 with 0.65% of the vote, or the Daylight Saving party elected in WA with just 98 votes.

Abolishing the group voting system will mean only parties with a high enough primary vote will be able to secure a seat in Parliament, properly reflecting the will of Victorian voters.

Quotes attributable to Leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandell.

“Group voting tickets are seriously dodgy. The fact that Labor is refusing to get rid of them is even dodgier. How can Labor condone a voting system that allows people to be tricked into voting for a party with a fake name that is completely opposed to their values?

“If Labor doesn’t abolish dodgy group voting tickets, they’re letting deceitful far-right political parties buy seats in Parliament and essentially handing the Upper House over to the far-right.”

Quotes attributable to Victorian Greens integrity spokesperson, Tim Read:

“Multiple parliamentary inquiries have found that group voting tickets are undemocratic and should be abolished and it’s time that Labor listened.”

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/greens-warn-danger-group-voting-tickets-far-right-party-shamelessly-shares

Seems like outright deception

Yes, quite apart from the question whether group voting is a good idea, how is it legal for a party to give itself a name that is clearly deliberately misleading?

I mean it would be like a party well to the right of centre calling themselves “Liberal”.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Today Avi Yemini is calling for members for ‘Muslim Votes Matter’ as well. He aims to exploit groups voting to channel votes from fake parties to One Nation.

…

2026-04-30

The Victorian Greens have today warned that keeping Victoria’s undemocratic group voting system is allowing extremists to shamelessly exploit the system and deceive voters in order to elect far-right MPs to the parliament at the November election.

It comes as far-right extremist, Avi Yemini publicly declared he would register the ‘Free Palestine Party’ and then funnel these votes to far-right political parties, intentionally deceiving voters in order to get himself elected. This is currently legal under Victoria’s undemocratic ‘group voting’ system.

Avi Yemini is the second person to declare they will be running under a deceiving name, in February anti-lockdown campaigner, Monica Smit, said she would run under the name of “Save the Environment Party” in order to funnel votes to right-wing parties who have anti-environment policies.

The Victorian Electoral Matters Parliamentary committee has repeatedly recommended that the group voting system is undemocratic and should be abolished before the next election.

The Greens say Labor’s claims that abolishing group voting tickets would secure seats for One Nation are false, and in fact keeping the GVT system could see many far-right parties elected on a fraction of a percent of a vote.

The group voting system has elected micro-parties with tiny votes, like the Transport Matters party who were elected in 2018 with 0.65% of the vote, or the Daylight Saving party elected in WA with just 98 votes.

Abolishing the group voting system will mean only parties with a high enough primary vote will be able to secure a seat in Parliament, properly reflecting the will of Victorian voters.

Quotes attributable to Leader of the Victorian Greens, Ellen Sandell.

“Group voting tickets are seriously dodgy. The fact that Labor is refusing to get rid of them is even dodgier. How can Labor condone a voting system that allows people to be tricked into voting for a party with a fake name that is completely opposed to their values?

“If Labor doesn’t abolish dodgy group voting tickets, they’re letting deceitful far-right political parties buy seats in Parliament and essentially handing the Upper House over to the far-right.”

Quotes attributable to Victorian Greens integrity spokesperson, Tim Read:

“Multiple parliamentary inquiries have found that group voting tickets are undemocratic and should be abolished and it’s time that Labor listened.”

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/greens-warn-danger-group-voting-tickets-far-right-party-shamelessly-shares

Seems like outright deception

Yes, quite apart from the question whether group voting is a good idea, how is it legal for a party to give itself a name that is clearly deliberately misleading?

It isn’t.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Seems like outright deception

Yes, quite apart from the question whether group voting is a good idea, how is it legal for a party to give itself a name that is clearly deliberately misleading?

It isn’t.

I would imagine that it is legal. Otherwise somebody would have already prosecuted them. Politicians are very litigious.

pretty sure the machinations of team sports are part of the team sports

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, quite apart from the question whether group voting is a good idea, how is it legal for a party to give itself a name that is clearly deliberately misleading?

It isn’t.

I would imagine that it is legal. Otherwise somebody would have already prosecuted them. Politicians are very litigious.

It is deception.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It isn’t.

I would imagine that it is legal. Otherwise somebody would have already prosecuted them. Politicians are very litigious.

It is deception.

I’m sure the Official Monster Raving Loony Party is everything it says on the box.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It isn’t.

I would imagine that it is legal. Otherwise somebody would have already prosecuted them. Politicians are very litigious.

It is deception.

politicians never lie

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I would imagine that it is legal. Otherwise somebody would have already prosecuted them. Politicians are very litigious.

It is deception.

politicians never lie

Clearly SCIENCE is a politician.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It is deception.

politicians never lie

Clearly SCIENCE is a politician.

A Politician, A Scientician, And An Inveterate Liar Walks Into A Bar

The Bartender And Linguistician Asks Them “Is That Not A Noun Verb Count Mismatch¿”

“No” They Say, ““They” Is The Singular Nominative Third Person Gender Nonspecific Pronoun These Days”

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

politicians never lie

Clearly SCIENCE is a politician.

A Politician, A Scientician, And An Inveterate Liar Walks Into A Bar

The Bartender And Linguistician Asks Them “Is That Not A Noun Verb Count Mismatch¿”

“No” They Say, ““They” Is The Singular Nominative Third Person Gender Nonspecific Pronoun These Days”

are you channeling DV?

ChrispenEvan said:

It’s a noise box. Canavan makes noises.

I mean we have a conservative party called Liberal and a rural party called National so we might as well have a pro-genocide party called Discontinue The Genocide. Nothing matters now.

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Clearly SCIENCE is a politician.

A Politician, A Scientician, And An Inveterate Liar Walks Into A Bar

The Bartender And Linguistician Asks Them “Is That Not A Noun Verb Count Mismatch¿”

“No” They Say, ““They” Is The Singular Nominative Third Person Gender Nonspecific Pronoun These Days”

are you channeling DV?

good point, dv would have pointed out that they meant yes it is not, our bad

Before going into politics, Matt Canavan was a senior executive with the multinational financial services firm KPMG.

Here he is cosplaying as a human while campaigning in Farrer.

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

SCIENCE said:

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

thankfully in their wisdom and leniency the authorities are enabling the repatriation of these adult cisgender white males oh wait

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/isis-families-syria-australia-flights-booked-arrest-flagged/106647034

yes yes we know it’s only the adult cisgender ones they’re threatening to arrest so 2/4 ain’t bad

SCIENCE said:

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

I’m not sure why we need specialised antisemitism laws or they should also include anti whatever hatred.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

I’m not sure why we need specialised antisemitism laws or they should also include anti whatever hatred.

they clearly antisemitism seriously

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

I’m not sure why we need specialised antisemitism laws or they should also include anti whatever hatred.

Me neither. Except politicians get hijacked by loud and vocal groups.

Michael V said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

I’m not sure why we need specialised antisemitism laws or they should also include anti whatever hatred.

Me neither. Except politicians get hijacked by loud and vocal groups.

会哭的孩子有奶吃

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Cymek said:

I’m not sure why we need specialised antisemitism laws or they should also include anti whatever hatred.

Me neither. Except politicians get hijacked by loud and vocal groups.

会哭的孩子有奶吃

Absolutely.

The Jewish Council of Australia, which maintains an antigenocide position. Well they got they donations that they needed to counter Zionist Supremacist viewpoints at the Royal Commission.

They will highlight:

Crucial legal support for members of our Jewish community to provide evidence to the commission. Almost every Jewish person who has spoken out for Palestinian human rights has experienced attacks and targeting. We want to be able to support them to safely provide their perspectives to the commission. etc

The ability for our barristers to interrogate evidence which seeks to use the fight against antisemitism to stifle dissent. While I am hopeful that the commission will remain focussed on understanding the root causes of antisemitism in Australia and how we can meaningfully tackle it, it is inevitable that groups acting in Israel’s interests will be hoping to advance their own agenda. Having us in the room will be the single most effective way we can ensure these hearings are not exploited to pursue a right wing agenda and demonise Palestinians, Muslims, immigrants and those speaking out against Israel’s genocide.

– An opportunity for the Jewish Council to elevate the voices of our community in the Royal Commission and in the media. Antisemitism will only increase if Jewish identity is falsely conflated with political loyalty to the state of Israel. These hearings are an opportunity to draw national attention to the experiences of Jewish people who are systematically censored and delegitimised for speaking out in support of Palestinian justice.

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Police approached the man about 11am after he was seen loitering near the venue wearing the shirt emblazoned with a swastika with a Star of David inside. It also had the slogan: “Antisemitism. Proud to be accused. Speak up!” Police issued him with a move-on order but he was not arrested.

well that’s a pretty harsh response, mustoff been an adult cisgender white male

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/swastika-shirt-antisemitism-social-cohesion-royal-commission/106646264

I’m not sure why we need specialised antisemitism laws or they should also include anti whatever hatred.

they clearly [take] antisemitism seriously

sorry fixed

oh and

no comment

oh so suddenly planned économies and communisme are getting sexy

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-07/what-if-we-used-taxes-or-superannuation-to-control-inflation/106645404

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

we knew the sunk costs of getting fascists to build our submarines were too great to just ditch the project

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Well Barnaby is all over it… his pet project.

From the snippets I’ve heard over recent years if has always sounded a bit half baked.. and now it will be.. until they recommence building it. There are problems especially with the last stages to Brisbane.. eg it doesn’t make it to the port.

at least the nbn turned out perfect

SCIENCE said:

at least the nbn turned out perfect

Unsure if that’s sarcasm
It was a dogs bollocks for a while when it was really an important long term infrastructure that needed doing properly

Ian said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Well Barnaby is all over it… his pet project.

From the snippets I’ve heard over recent years if has always sounded a bit half baked.. and now it will be.. until they recommence building it. There are problems especially with the last stages to Brisbane.. eg it doesn’t make it to the port.

Yes. Without a port access it isn’t making much sense. Never mind, they took a long while to get from Adelaide to Darwin.

SCIENCE said:

at least the nbn turned out perfect

U reckon?

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

I agree.

SCIENCE said:

at least the nbn turned out perfect

I wouldn’t say perfect but I have had no problems with it. get good speeds that exceed my needs. reliable.

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Plus it would get a shed load of trucks off the road.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Plus it would get a shed load of trucks off the road.

Oh you said that, dur.

anyway pretty sure there’s a country out there that could do it for us quick efficient economic like, if only we traded with them like they were our biggest trading partner

wait

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Yeah. Serious short-terminism from federal Labor.

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Yeah. Serious short-terminism from federal Labor.

The money is probably required for those absolutely delivered on time nuclear submarines and infrastructure

SCIENCE said:

anyway pretty sure there’s a country out there that could do it for us quick efficient economic like, if only we traded with them like they were our biggest trading partner

wait

We spent all the money we had on new defence requirements that won’t get here for years.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway pretty sure there’s a country out there that could do it for us quick efficient economic like, if only we traded with them like they were our biggest trading partner

wait

We spent all the money we had on new defence requirements that won’t get here for years.

I think SCIENCE was talking about how China has installed its new high-speed rail systems so quickly.

Sunk costs, submarines. I see what you did there.

dv said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

we knew the sunk costs of getting fascists to build our submarines were too great to just ditch the project

anyway pretty sure there’s a country out there that could do it for us quick efficient economic like, if only we traded with them like they were our biggest trading partner

wait

We spent all the money we had on new defence requirements that won’t get here for years.

I think SCIENCE was talking about how China has installed its new high-speed rail systems so quickly.

Sunk costs, submarines. I see what you did there.

we mean

Season 3 Episode 7: On The Defence

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

Well Barnaby is all over it… his pet project.

From the snippets I’ve heard over recent years if has always sounded a bit half baked.. and now it will be.. until they recommence building it. There are problems especially with the last stages to Brisbane.. eg it doesn’t make it to the port.

Yes. Without a port access it isn’t making much sense. Never mind, they took a long while to get from Adelaide to Darwin.

The Kagura intermodal was planned to connect to the existing Sydney-Brisbane freight line to the port of Brisbane

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/inland-rail-cancellation-reactions/106646490

This is a terrible decision and the LNP is right to shred Labor over this. Infrastructure costs have increased since 2019 but this is a generational project that will be providing benefits for decades.

Quite apart from the waste of a half completed project and the damage to businesses who had planned around it, the effect of this change is to add tens of millions of tonnes to our future emissions, as freight that would be on rail will now be on trucks. The Greens should also be ropable.

+1